"As she said in a piece in the Guardian at the start of the Ukraine war, 'We should not underestimate the link between humiliation and aggression.'"
"There's a strange paradox because, in some ways, I think it's incredibly important to talk about these ideas, and yet you also have to remain off the radar."
"A lot of what we want to do is to try and set up communication quietly behind the scenes between warring parties."
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