As we sit down to discuss this obscenely on-the-nose metaphor for American decline and the legacy of Never Hungover Again, Johnson orders a round of Heineken 0.0, which initially hits like the punch line of a joke he's been waiting to tell for a decade.
Such is the trade-off when an emo-pop-punk hybrid titled Never Hungover Again turns a side hustle into an actual career in genres fueled by arrested development.
"I went really hard, and it was really fun, but I used that [part of my life] up," he admits. "I can't take this much longer."
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