Jack Antonoff on Bleachers' everyone for ten minutes, Grief, and Springsteen's Advice: Podcast
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Jack Antonoff on Bleachers' everyone for ten minutes, Grief, and Springsteen's Advice: Podcast
The first two songs focus on leaving and frame the album as a narrative that formed once the creator stepped back from the work. Leaving a first tour is described as feeling like leaving an ancestral pact. The album reflects on generations shaped by survival, stability, and practicality rather than art, with dreams and passions portrayed as dangerous. Grief and fractured relationships give way to hope that appears in the writing process. Writing is presented as inherently hopeful because it requires belief. Advice from Bruce Springsteen emphasizes that touring and making albums can be a great life, even as modern expectations push people toward many other careers. The creator continues to prioritize making records and touring.
"“The first two songs are very specifically about leaving,” Antonoff says, explaining how the record unexpectedly formed a narrative once he stepped back from it. “I remember leaving for my first tour and feeling like I was leaving the ancestral pact.” That idea hangs over much of the album, especially as he reflects on generations shaped by survival, stability, and practicality instead of art. “The point of life for generations was just to live,” he says. “This idea of dreams and passions were so dangerous.”"
"But Antonoff doesn't stay in despair for long. In fact, he argues that hope keeps sneaking into his writing whether he intends it or not. “The act of writing is hopeful,” he explains. “You wouldn't do it if you didn't believe.” That philosophy ties directly into advice he once got from Bruce Springsteen: “'If you spend your life touring and making albums, that's a great life.' Sounds silly, but you know, nowadays it's like you have to do all these things."
"“Like, I don't want to be an actor... I don't want to have a fucking clothing line. But what once used to be called a Renaissance person has now become almost the norm. And I really just always every day, every day I say I just want to make records and tour. As if that's like some fucking trad shit.”"
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