MSNBC's Chris Matthews Rips Into Trump on Abortion While Recalling 2015 Interview: He Wanted to Cause Pain and Suffering and Punishment!'
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"The message that has gotten through...is what we've talked about...Trump saying what I'm going to do...He said There needs to be some form of punishment. Punishment!"
"That incredible language which has been reappearing over and over in the ads here in Philadelphia...people look and say, Wait a minute, he's talking about me. He's talking about me and my body."
"I want them to be punished. Women who have an abortion [should] be punished. This is all politics is local, guys. This is as local as you can get."
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