The current COP happening in Baku doesn't matter much, because when we look at the previous COPs, there are a lot of promises but nothing much to show for them.
We need tangible results.
If these same people have big companies and support industrialization, if they want to make things okay, that means industrialization has to slow down or stop, and I don't think we are at the point in this world now where industrialization is going to stop.
Having observed years of climate negotiations, she reflected on the progress and challenges for Africa.
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