"My dad's been meeting with his church members and said, 'I have never hit my wife, physically laid hands on her,' which is something that is blatantly not true, because I saw him hit her on a regular basis for years. That's something my other siblings can attest to. You can ask any of them."
"It's important to kind of identify what we're talking about," Shelley advises him. "I just want to know from your perspective, you're saying that you witnessed your dad with a closed fist punch your mom, and you saw that?"
"No, I never said that. He slapped her," John says after detailing the electrical cord beatings and other violent abuse that both he, his siblings and his mother endured.
"I have spoken with your dad about some intimate details. Frankly speaking, he told me that he never closed-fist hit your mom."
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