"Calling in to speak with host Erin Burnett, Mark Epstein claimed that his brother had told him about the call, during which the president was surprised he won. After Mark Epstein told Burnett that Jeffrey had claimed on tape that he stopped hanging out with Trump after he came to see him as a crook, the host rolled back tape of comments made by the president to the press just days after Epstein's arrest on federal charges, on July 12, 2019."
"After the election, I usually speak to Jeffrey regularly, and in one of the calls he spoke, Jeffrey told me that Trump, it was after the election that Trump called him and it was sort of like, Can you believe this?' Because nobody believed Trump was going to win. Trump was sort of surprised himself that he won. So Jeffrey said he called him like you know, Could you believe this'-type of a phone call? You know?"
Mark Epstein said Jeffrey Epstein told him that Donald Trump phoned Epstein soon after the 2016 presidential election and expressed surprise at winning. The call featured an exchange in which Trump reacted with a 'Can you believe this?' type of remark, reflecting widespread disbelief that Trump would win. In July 2019, Trump publicly stated he had not spoken to Epstein in 'probably 15 years or more,' denied being a big fan of Epstein, and denied prior knowledge of Epstein's crimes. Jeffrey Epstein also claimed on tape that he stopped associating with Trump after viewing him as a crook.
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