"I grew up in the timberland of Estacada, outside of Oregon City, so I have a lot of experience with lumber towns and lumber trucks and guys who had chopped down trees and everything."
"I was sort of a cultural misfit because I'm so far out the woods that I didn't get to art galleries or museums or movies or like that until I was much older. So I was watching TV. That's where I got all my culture, on television."
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