
"Holly Cummins: I'm Holly Cummins. I work for Red Hat. I help build Quarkus. Trisha Gee: I'm Trisha Gee. I work for Gradle. I do not work on the build tool. I work with our other product called Develocity, which is a developer productivity tool. Holly Cummins: Quarkus is really about creating developer joy, and so my job description is technically to create developer joy."
"They were working away and sometimes the code is just going well and the code isn't fighting back, and so they're there typing away, and everything was flowing and they were smiling. A prowling project manager came up behind them, as you know project managers do. The project manager said, why are you smiling? On this very threatening way. The developer was like, because things are going well."
Holly Cummins works for Red Hat and helps build Quarkus. Trisha Gee works for Gradle and works on Develocity, a developer productivity tool. Quarkus focuses on creating developer joy. Trisha frames developer productivity engineering around bringing enjoyment to development rather than measuring output like lines of code. Both note common ground between developer joy and productivity. They recount an anecdote where a developer smiling while coding was reprimanded by a project manager who said work is not a place to be happy. The anecdote underscores concerns about management attitudes and the importance of preserving joy in development.
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