"In the final episode of When We All Get to Heaven, we catch up on what's happened in the many years between the emergence of effective treatment for AIDS in the late '90s and the fall of 2025, when we recorded this episode. We linger on a moment back in June 1999, when Jim was still pastor and called on the church to remember that AIDS wasn't over. Because-advances notwithstanding-it still isn't over."
"When We All Get to Heaven is produced by Eureka Street Productions. It is co-created by Lynne Gerber, Siri Colom, and Ariana Nedelman. Our story editor is Sayre Quevedo. Our sound designer is David Herman. Our managing producer is Krissy Clark. Tim Dillinger is our consulting producer and Betsy Towner Levine is our fact-checker. We had additional story editing help from Sarah Ventre, Arwen Nicks, Allison Behringer, and Krissy Clark. For a complete list of credits, please visit https://www.heavenpodcast.org/credits."
The final episode updates events from the emergence of effective AIDS treatments in the late 1990s through fall 2025 and revisits a June 1999 moment when Pastor Jim urged the church to remember that AIDS was not over. The narrative emphasizes that medical advances did not end the epidemic and that ongoing vigilance and prevention efforts remain crucial. The episode provides resources on Gilbert Baker and the rainbow flag, PrEP information, the 2023 UNAIDS global update, biblical and hymn references, production credits, and funders including the Henry Luce Foundation and California Humanities, with links to episode images and full credits.
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