"Plenty of planning went into what we would do with the site and how it would work, and many hours of committee meetings have followed in that vein, but that it arrived on Sept. 10, 2020 was a reflection of the fact that we were ready to do it, and that-you may recall what September of 2020 was like-we were both eager to get to work and didn't really have that much else going on at the time."
"Was it at the beginning, where Drew and I talked about our favorite memories of Defector, where we believe the site is going and how we make it work, and how it fits into the burgeoning field of worker-owned media outlets? Maybe, although I think there's some good stuff in here about what makes Defector's workplace and business model different from any other place I've ever worked."
"I don't think it came during the bit that followed, where we discussed the delightful collaboration between the scammy failed carbon-trading concern Aspiration Inc. and Kawhi Leonard/Kawhi Leonard's Uncle Dennis, which allegedly circumvented the NBA's salary cap in the laziest possible ways. There is something about a scam like this, just on the merits, that is a delight to talk about even as the broader cultural diseases it reflects remain pretty awful."
Defector launched on Sept. 10, 2020 after significant planning and committee work, arriving at a moment when founders were ready and available. The fifth-anniversary podcast is longer than usual and includes reflections on favorite memories, the site's trajectory, and the mechanics of a worker-owned media model. The conversation highlights what distinguishes Defector's workplace and business model from other outlets. The episode also covers a curious collaboration between Aspiration Inc. and Kawhi Leonard's uncle that allegedly skirted the NBA salary cap, a scam that is entertaining on its own while reflecting broader cultural problems.
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