The dialogue reflects on the evolution of art since the 1970s, suggesting that while past eras allowed for radical self-expression, contemporary art is increasingly commodified. Artists face economic pressures that influence their creative motivations, shifting from raw honesty to market viability. The discussion also touches on the challenging nature of remaining continuously provocative in art, contrasting reflective practices with modern fame-seeking behaviors seen in figures like Kanye West, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and the discomfort it may evoke in society.
I think it has become more commodified. Nothing comes to my attention that would make me think that art has become anything other than a business.
If your art or music is true and honest, it does hold a power and strength that some people might find uncomfortable, and therefore it gets hit.
I think it would be exhausting to be transgressive 24/7. How do you go from A to B?! We used to go back to Beck Road and have hot chocolate.
People have lives to live. I don't remember thinking: I'm going to push some boundaries now. That's not the way I look at it.
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