Mearsheimer sees Trump as an exception to the bipartisan foreign policy consensus, trying to beat back the Deep State, yet ultimately failing.
In discussing Trump's ambitions, Mearsheimer questions whether Trump can achieve a fundamentally different foreign policy than his predecessors.
Sachs remarks on the existence of a 'Deep State Party,' identifying key figures who represent this cohesive establishment across administrations.
Both scholars express skepticism about Trump's ability to successfully challenge the entrenched political order represented by the Deep State.
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