They talk about the five 'stages of grief' playlists Taylor Swift released on Apple Music (1:00), what it means that this is most likely a breakup album about Joe Alwyn (13:18), and how this album might sound given that Jack Antonoff and Aaron Dessner are her main collaborators on it (27:54).
Less than a week away from the release of The Tortured Poets Department, Nora and Nathan talk through some of the burning questions they have about this album.
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