In a recent piece in the New York Times (doubtless pushed by Leo himself), we learned that the old nutters are the new normies. On this week's Amicus podcast, FedSoc biographer and observer Amanda Hollis-Brusky joined Dahlia Lithwick to try to understand whether the conservative legal movement has just wilted before our eyes. Hollis-Brusky is a professor of politics at Pomona College and author of 2015's Ideas With Consequences: The Federalist Society and the Conservative Counterrevolution, and co-author of 2020's Separate but Faithful: The Christian Right's Radical Struggle to Transform Law and Legal Culture. Our conversation has been lightly edited for clarity.
Amanda Hollis-Brusky: It seems to me that that is such a high-stakes moment for Trump. It's the moment in 2020 at which he's going to hang on to power or he's not. And that's also a high-stakes moment for these FedSocs who are sort of watching this happen and then listening to what the president wants. And even someone a
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