I think it's a big moment for Biden. I think it's in some ways a make or break [moment], Zakaria said. He has a lot more to gain or lose from this. He has to approach this as if he's the underdog and as if he's coming from behind, which is all true...
The thing I pointed out in that commentary was he is really behind on the question of who is more competent and I believe that there's a 25-point drop from the 2020 race for Biden, he said. That's about energy, that's about your ability to show that you're in command, you're in control so it's a big moment for Biden.
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